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On 17 Mar 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. The result was redirect to patronymic. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Matronymic for a record of the discussion. —Korath (Talk) 01:07, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)

I can see that that never happened. Either it should, or this article should be built up a bit. I'd prefer the latter, but even had I voted two years ago, I would have been in the minority, and I don't really have time to do it myself. If it stays, I'd like to see some examples of matronyms in different cultures or languages (e.g. Russian, Welsh, etc) described here, perhaps with some information on the relative frequencies of matronymic naming conventions. Anyone? Msr657 10:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a 2009 vote for keeping it as it is. And 5 years of inertia says a lot too! ;o) 92.24.76.182 (talk) 16:52, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Matronymic "middle" names are certainly NOT present in Russia, Ukraine, or Belarus. There is just no such possible linguistic form, the languages simply do not allow them. It's a topic that isn't discussed and appears somewhat taboo, but, apparently, illegitimate children are given some arbitrary middle patronymic or the patronymic of the presumed but unnamed father on their birth certificates. A full Russian name absolutely requires a middle patronym and orphanages make up patronyms for found children who have no known relatives. Unwed women basically choose what to write in the birth certificate, but some form of middle patronym is inevitable, and a matronym is neither acceptable, nor allowed. However, matronymic surnames are common (Marinin, Ulyanov, etc.), and bear no stigma whatsoever in modern times. 128.195.186.34 12:17, 11 October 2007 (UTC)Adieu[reply]

Spanish-speaking countries

"Individuals in Spanish-speaking countries are given two surnames". Not strictly true. It's very used in Spain but no often in Latin America, at least not in all countries: In Argentina by example these are rare exceptions in cases of very commons surnames to make difference, or in families of with "outstanding surnames" of "high class". In almost all the cases is used the father's surname only. Tonifa (talk) 19:45, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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«Individuals in Spanish-speaking countries are given two surnames, usually the patronymic followed by the matronymic. For example, the current President of Mexico is Enrique Peña Nieto; Peña is his patronymic and Nieto his matronymic. He may be addressed as "Mr Peña", "Mr Peña Nieto", or "Mr Peña-Nieto", but referring to him as "Mr Nieto" is incorrect.» This is not entirelly correct. For example, the former President of Spain was José Luis (Name) Rodriguez Zapatero (Surnames). The press and the spanish people almost always referred to him as "Zapatero" or "President Zapatero". "Rodriguez Zapatero" was rarely used. If the patronymic is a very common one (As is Rodriguez), is usually used the matronymic instead. If at work there are two men with the same patronymic, their co-workers will adress them by their matronymics to differenciate them. In official documents, both surnames must be used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.137.240.195 (talk) 01:11, 22 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]