Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/4 score and 7 years ago

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The result of the debate was delete. – AB CD 23:13, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

4 score and 7 years ago

Horrible name for an already existing topic. Information should be merged into Gettysburg address. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 02:56, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)

Keep this article since it has some historic value. Also, it mentions some pop culture references to it too. --TheSamurai 02:57, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Delete no potential for expansion, but merge pop culture into Gettysburg address. Howabout1 03:00, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Delete, not worth merging. android↔talk 03:07, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
Delete. Don't merge the pop culture stuff - just because a character says "four score and seven donuts ago" or something doesn't make it relevant. FreplySpang (talk) 03:23, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Agree with nominator, merge and redirect. Meelar (talk) 03:26, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
Merge and redirect. Add this fun fact - people always get the intonation wrong. The say "four score (pause) and seven years ago" when, at that time (when counting years in 'scores' was common), it would have been pronounced with the same intonation that we might say "at 2:17 PM". Learnt that sitting in on a language and culture class. -- 8^D ^gab 04:14, 2005 Apr 12 (UTC)
Not sure about the merge-ability of pop trivia, but a redirect seems in order, as it's a common phrase that'll probably be a search term. --Dmcdevit 04:22, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Merge/redirect. The pop references are kind of cool, though. Ditto BD's assessment. - Lucky 6.9 04:30, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Delete, nothing worth merging. Megan1967 10:57, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Redirect The pop refernces don't need to be merged IMO. But this is the opening line of the speech and someone might search for it this way. Dsmdgold 13:06, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
Redirect to Gettysburg address. Many people know the first line of this speech, and may search with it so the title is at least useful. Sjakkalle 13:09, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Redirect to Gettysburg address. The pop culture references aren't worth merging. Dave the Red (talk) 18:55, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
Redirect - but don't merge the pop culture trivia. Lots of characters say lots of things in lots of movies, but that doesn't make it relevant. CDC (talk) 21:12, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Delete. More SamuraiClintoncruft. Rick K 04:54, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)
Delete perfectly pointless article; if "score" is considered that unknown, score in Gettysburg address should fix the problem. -- AlexR 18:08, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Delete. Useless as a redirect; four score and seven years ago is what someone's likely to search for. --Carnildo 19:59, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Redirect or Delete Vegaswikian 06:10, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Redirect The pop culture facts are amusing, but it shouldn't be its own article. Dr Ingel 01:02, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Merge/redir. Redirs are cheap and useful; many city articles cite pop references, so why not the speech. Also, I don't really see what makes urban legends RE the speech more relevant than pop culture citations. Niteowlneils 04:13, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Comment. I dropped the pop-culture refs in the Gettysburg Address article, right after the urban legends. Fits nicely there. -- 8^D ^gab 00:17, 2005 Apr 18 (UTC)
Delete. Television and movie parodies of historical events, whether they be "Bill and Ted" or "Monty Python" or "South Park," etc. do not belong within the legitimate article that they parody. Such examples of jokes and humor made long after the historical event are not relevant to the history itself. Instead, I suggest that a link be provided within the "Bill and Ted" article directed to the "Gettysburg Address" article in case readers want to learn the true facts behind that humorous line from the movie. Bart 02:46, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

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