Talk:Robert Trujillo
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Robert Trujillo article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
The contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to articles about living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles, which has been designated as a contentious topic. Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page. |
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
About Technique
[edit]Noone seems to say if he plays mostly fretless or fretted bass.. It seems that he plays fretless in this video.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z03xs-CzPo image on this article however is with fretted bass..195.255.187.84 (talk) 12:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
- He play FRETTED bass. Usualy. --PET (talk) 01:38, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Can I hear him play?
[edit]Hey, I am not a big fan of all his former bands, and since he is not on St.Anger, I couldn't really find any track where his playing is HEARD. Maybe someone can point me somewhere? Maybe a bass solo or a bass intro or something? Thanks. Also, of course, this can be added here to "prove" he is good.
St. Anger sux anyway. If you want to hear him...and hear him good lissen to Infectious Grooves. I recomend Don't Stop Sphread The Jam from the seccond album.But the Infectious Grooves CD..."TITLE": 'The Plague That Makes Your Booty Move'. Track 4 & 5, "Stop Funking With My Head", "I'm Gonna Be My King". two great songs, musically & lyrically, This whole cd has a great bass line, and a definant "GROOVE" I Wish So Much That This Band Was Back Together, and Doin' Live Shows, This Would Be Gettin' Your Monies Wortrh....This Band Would Have Gone Further Up The Charts with The Right Promoter!! And The Right Radio Airplay . --PET 10:29, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
RJ plays on the St Anger dvd ... which is a far superior version of the album than the actual released version. better drum sound, better bass play etc etc .. i strongly recommend listening to it.
b3x 20:09, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, you can't hear him on any Metallica albums. They might as well not have a bass player. If he turns up loud enough to be heard, James Hetfield tells him to turn down because he can hear the bass! This is according to his interview in Bass Player mag. But he was great with Suicidal Tendencies and Infectious Grooves. DavidRavenMoon (talk) 17:21, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
finger picking
[edit]There are more bassists playing with fingers than with a pick. Fact. Only ones consistently using a pick are those punkers. I reckon it should be like 3:1 to the finger guys.
Sure, he finger picks, and so do many other bassists. I don't think he's within a 'few'.
there are... "FEW" :) I mean not few like 5-6 people...but manny people use a pick.
If you consider how many people do use a pick now days, and how many don't. Then he's one of few. 66.38.64.190 05:12, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
Most thrash/punk bassists use a pick. In fact, the members of Metallica were amazed that he could play "Battery" with his fingers because of the high speed and difficult rythmn. Kirbus 12:06, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Which, by the way, is ridiculous... I am not a professional musician, just one of those guys who sometimes plays shows in bands (and I'm just 20 years old) and I can play "Battery" with my fingers. It isn't that hard. I mean, it's not particularly easy, but it's not something Metallica should be amazed by. I'm not familiar with Rob's previous work other than Jerry Cantrell and Ozzy, but I really hate how uneven his playing is... if you listen to his lines with Metallica or Ozzy live, he hits the strings much harder some times than others, just randomly because of sloppiness. Kills me. 4.252.76.99 08:23, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Part of text copied from http://www.allmetallica.com/info/biography/rob.php :((
- Most probably, since many Latinos in the U.S. have two or more given names, plus occasionally (and rarely) use their mother's last name also... Demf 17:16, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
ok...ho likes Rob ?? I mean hes style of play... --PET 01:53, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC) Your grammar is pretty awful. But yeah Robert Trujillo is a pretty awesome bassist actually.
Albums?
[edit]Has he been on any albums of the bands he's played with? I know he wasn't on St. Anger, but any of Ozzy's stuff or anything else?
Ofcourse. He is on 4 Infectious Grooves albums, 1 album (i know for shoure) on Ozzy's... and about 2 suicidal tendencies albums. I don't know for shoure. --PET 23:48, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
infobox
[edit]what an ugly infobox. I don't know WHY we need info about hes height...eye color...etc ?
Inquiring minds want to know!!! It puts you closer to your "rock star"..... The Ladies want to know the color of rockstars eyes and hair, of course, but most of all, they want to know the color of his money!!!!
Status
[edit]he isn't single. he has a new baby.--Manboobies 15:41, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
- True, I'm pretty sure he's married, and I know for a fact he has a son, but he isn't that new, he was born in 2003 (unless he had another kid since then when you mean "new baby")
Nickel Creek - Smoothie Song
[edit]Does not he play upright bass on Nickel Creek's single, Smoothie Song? Watch the video
$1 million dollar up front
[edit]"The members of Metallica offered him $1 million up front, on top of the percentage he would earn by being in the band."
The way I remember it, Ulrich says the $1 million is "an advance" on the percentage. Hence, it is not "on top of" it. A minor detail, really, but a factual error if my memory is to be trusted. Anyone care to check this?
Fls 17:24, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- I remember clearly when Lars sayd they give $1million for the start, and also the % for the earnings and...later...he told him he has 5 votes on whatevar they are voting for. --PET 00:16, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Metallica's attorney, Peter Paterno, said in the documentary that "it's as lawyer as you can get, really. This is an advance on some percentage that you'll be making with the band." So, yes, it is not an advance on top of the percentage, it is an advance of the percentage. I apoligize for not having a link to prove that fact, but if you watch "Some Kind of Monster", there's my referrence.
Name Clarification
[edit]That is not his real full name, he is american hence he is only named Robert Trujillo (only one last name, perhaps he may have a middle name). But the "full" name that appears as real in this page was joke made by Robert, similar to "Miranda Veracruz De la Joya Cardenal" from Married with Children.
I am mexican. Veracruz in not a last name. It was a joke.
I think this dude needs more names. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.240.188.148 (talk) 01:08, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
biased article?
[edit]When reading this article, I think it is a little to favorable in his performance and talent. I personally think he isn't such a great bass player, however I think that you should be allowed to say he is a good one, just provide good sources stating that he is, otherwise I can see no reason to consider his previous work 'outstanding' —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.60.106.216 (talk) 23:19, 6 December 2006 (UTC).
wow wow what the hell? there can be lots of links be given to prove he is good. besides, I think I can provide audio samples to prove it. He is one absolutely skilled in his art.
Too Short ?
[edit]By the way the article looks, The discography is much higher than the biography itself in terms of length. This is really unfortunate, as he is from Metallica, a big one in the heavy metal stage... the rest of the members have loooong articles on them, even the deceased(but still called great) Cliff Burton. Why can't we add some more information, and expand the article, with more pics and some audio samples? Come on man we are talking about a high end bassist here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.96.41.117 (talk) 09:39, 6 February 2007 (UTC).
His real name?
[edit]Encyclopedia Metallum seems to discredit the fact his birthname is Roberto Trujillo, well, I mean yes, it's right... Partially, but his full name is Roberto Agustín Miguel Santiago Samuel Trujillo Veracruz. So somebody needs to fix this, and put his full name on there.--4.154.241.58 05:32, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
- There was a time when there was the full name, but it seems somebody took it out. --PET 13:12, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with the fact that it could be a joke of the man (i saw the video), the reason i believe this is because in spanish speaking countries people has a tendenci to give a child two names, but in the "joke name" he has 5 names (Agustín, Miguel, Santiago and Samuel) which is very unorthodox. Omarnirv (talk) 04:53, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- His full name cannot be made public without citing a reliable source, according to WP:BLP. Many tried to relist his full name, only to unexpectedly suffer from butthurt revisionism. As of now, we will have to wait until the near future and get approval of something in order to list his full name once again. Slasher405 (talk) 00:46, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
- Slasher405, if you're going to refer to adhering to Wikipedia policy as "butthurt revisionism", then maybe you don't belong on Wikipedia. I also don't see how adding to a twelve-year-old section, where the most recent comment is from nearly eleven years ago, is going to get you anywhere. 4TheWynne(talk)(contribs) 01:16, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
Age
[edit]I changed the year of birth from 1962 to 1964, and the date to October 23. This is the year and date listed on Rob's page at Metallica's website. Not to assume, but I'm quessing that their info would be the most accurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diesel6855 (talk • contribs) 21:12, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Whoever keeps changing his birthdate and year, you need to stop. Unless you can cite where your information is and whether it is more accurate than Metallica's webpage. Diesel6855 (talk) 05:00, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Father as Teacher
[edit]His father is not a teacher, and certainly not a teacher at Culver City High School. This was an obvious confusion for a teacher at the school with a similar name, Mr. Trejo. I made the change on the page.24.45.196.36 (talk) 21:59, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Equipment
[edit]He has played an OLP MM2 before. (I'd know because I have the left handed version) PXK T /C 00:58, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Metallica & Suicidal Tendencies - 1994
[edit]I don't know whether it's relevant or not, but Rob and company from ST toured with Metallica in 1994. Should it be added? -Alan 24.184.184.130 (talk) 22:11, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
St. Anger DVD
[edit]I was just told in a reversion that it was already discussed whether to include the St. Anger DVD in the discography section (since it is a full-length audio (+ video) performance). I don't see the discussion here - am I missing something? Luminifer (talk) 16:27, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- If no one chimes in I'm going to re-add the DVD to the discography section. Luminifer (talk) 20:21, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- I support the removal based on the previous edit summary "section is an overview discography not videography." The section is not different than any other discography section. Trujillo does not play on the album (bass duties were handled by Bob Rock) He does appear on the enclosed DVD video but the article does not include a videography. Which is the appropriate place for the St. Anger DVD entry. Wether B (talk) 14:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for commenting. The summary you are referencing said "it was already discussed" - I mentioned that here, because I could not find this discussion. Why did you wait until now to do this, rather than almost a week ago when I initially asked? Is there some way to watch a page without watching its talk page? Luminifer (talk) 16:52, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- I support the removal based on the previous edit summary "section is an overview discography not videography." The section is not different than any other discography section. Trujillo does not play on the album (bass duties were handled by Bob Rock) He does appear on the enclosed DVD video but the article does not include a videography. Which is the appropriate place for the St. Anger DVD entry. Wether B (talk) 14:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Encino Man
[edit]You can see him playing bass for the band in Encino Man, he's also listed in the credits.
Korn
[edit]The youtube video Korn and Tye Trujillo states clearly that he helped with Divine, possibly other Korn songs too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX9wveUJ6YE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:602:9E00:C920:8DAA:4E57:2AFA:E3B4 (talk) 07:00, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Jerry Cantrell
[edit]Why are people refusing to elaborate the reasons for removing things on the TALK page, or in some cases, refusing to list reasons at all? For example, the info just removed on Jerry Cantrell's band could be given a CN, or someone could bother to see if it's true, rather than just quickly removing material someone just added. The material was added in good faith - the least we could do is have the good faith to tag it rather than remove it, no? Luminifer (talk) 04:37, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- If no one responds to this question soon, I _will_ revert the change again - I would prefer to have it discussed here, but if no one responds I will have to assume no one will care if I revert it. Luminifer (talk) 19:17, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- If no one responds? No one needs to respond. It was a blah edit. And it was identified as such by more than one editor. It wasn't worth my time to add an edit summary. But the last edit summary I read on the page says it all. The goal would be to remove fluff content... not add it. The Real Libs-speak politely 19:23, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- What was wrong with the edit? I saw that it presented some interesting information on his history and collaborations (the common drummer is not mentioned in the discography), as well some historical context to his band-hopping. The edit summary did not say it was fluff content, it said it was uncited. Why can't we just add CNs, if not actually cite it? It was a good-faith edit. I say again that we should have good faith in our edits as well. Luminifer (talk) 20:11, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- If no one responds? No one needs to respond. It was a blah edit. And it was identified as such by more than one editor. It wasn't worth my time to add an edit summary. But the last edit summary I read on the page says it all. The goal would be to remove fluff content... not add it. The Real Libs-speak politely 19:23, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
One thing about you Libs, you're never vague. I could assume good faith on a new article. But articles that have been around for a long time should just have cited facts and no soap opera. The deleted content used that evil encyclopedia curse word - "rumor." That is the fluff I think that Libs was refering to. Out of that entire paragraph the only useful content was "Trujillo appeared on Jerry Cantrell's album" and that was all that needed to be said. The rest was awkward and questionable. Libs you should be an admin. Peter Fleet (talk) 22:03, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Two responses: 1) the fact that he collaborated with that drummer mentioned on several occastions was, I think, the most useful info from that paragraph. It could have been left in. 2) Past rumors, if confirmed to have been rumors, are not necessarily 'fluff'. Rumors that hurt a person's reputation, if described as past rumors, do have a place here. I did not think it warranted such outright dismissal. Luminifer (talk) 00:57, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
I would really appreciate some feedback on this. Thanks... Luminifer (talk) 20:48, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
- I agree with Peter Fleet's statement that the only verifiable part of the content being that he played on the Cantrell album. The rest of the rumour part does not need to be added. Even the part about playing for Cantrell is just duplication of information already in the discography section. Aussie Ausborn (talk) 22:29, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
- Actually the truly useful information is not explicitly stated: Both Trujillo and Bordin then appeared on Jerry Cantrell's (of Alice in Chains fame) second solo album Degradation Trip in 2002 playing bass guitar and drums respectively, this then lead to some rumours that the two would leave Osbourne's band to tour Cantrell's album, . Translation: Trujillo and Bordin collaborated on several occasions. I don't think this edit should have been removed so quickly without any thought - I would like to put this information back into the article. In other words, according to WP:RCP, this was a needy edit, not a bad edit. Luminifer (talk) 06:02, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Only the text concerning Trujillo should go in the article. There shouldn't be any mention of Bordin and certainly no unreferenced rumour suggestions. GripTheHusk (talk) 11:36, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
- Why? I think it is worth mentioning a frequent collaborator. Luminifer (talk) 14:37, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
- I don't believe it's helpful to assert things without providing any reasoning. Why is it not worthwhile to mention a frequent collaborator? Luminifer (talk) 17:18, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Talented guy,
[edit]Seems like a very talented guy. Now I love Metallica and they're one of my all time favourite "metal" bands (or whatever you consider them) but their bass to me has always been just so simple. They put a much stronger focus on Guitar > Lyrics > Drums and then bass. While bass is generally a background instrument and does put a great heavy sound on metallica, he could do so much more sophisticated work, or maybe metallica can have more bass solos as he seems like the guy who can do it. Just my 2 cents. 24.129.235.101 (talk) 22:28, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Vocals? What the hell?
[edit]Why in the hell does it say vocals as an instrument? I'm sorry, but Rob can't sing worth shit.
- The voice can certainly be classified as an instrument in this context. The leading photo appears to show him singing (unless he's yawning). Whatever your opinion of his singing ability, singing is apparently part of what he does as a band member and so it is note-worthy. -- Timberframe (talk) 10:22, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Okay, but when they say vocals they mean that he can sustain a note. In the Saint Anger DVD, on Invisible Kid, he does backing vocals and when he does, his voice always cracks. I'm not trying to be a dick, but that seems like solid enough evidence to me, but if you can find any proof that he can sing, that'll be good enough for me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.178.152.137 (talk) 00:22, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
- "but when they say vocals they mean that he can sustain a note" - no, it means he uses his voice. To what effect, and to what standard is immaterial. -- Timberframe (talk) 00:52, 9 January 2010 (UTC) Alright, that's good enough for me, but why does it say on Lars' page he sings too? He doesn't do ANY backing vocals what-so-ever.
- Rob does backup vocals in a few Metallica songs. That does NOT qualify as vocals. He is not a vocalist, he has never been a vocalist, so it does not belong in the infobox. Asterix 13 (talk) 15:59, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
File:Roberttrujillojaidenboston.jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion
[edit]An image used in this article, File:Roberttrujillojaidenboston.jpg, has been nominated for speedy deletion at Wikimedia Commons for the following reason: Copyright violations
Don't panic; deletions can take a little longer at Commons than they do on Wikipedia. This gives you an opportunity to contest the deletion (although please review Commons guidelines before doing so). The best way to contest this form of deletion is by posting on the image talk page.
This notification is provided by a Bot --CommonsNotificationBot (talk) 01:32, 9 October 2011 (UTC) |
External links modified
[edit]Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Robert Trujillo. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Corrected formatting/usage for http://punkglobe.com/chloetrujillointerview409.html
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}
).
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 12:25, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
External links modified
[edit]Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 2 external links on Robert Trujillo. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130919055253/http://uthmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Robert-Trujillo-from-Metallica-getting-his-rock-on.jpg to http://uthmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Robert-Trujillo-from-Metallica-getting-his-rock-on.jpg
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110504074347/http://www.ampeg.com/artists/artist.php?artistID=109 to http://www.ampeg.com/artists/artist.php?artistID=109
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 06:39, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
Stymee
[edit]Initially billed as "Stymee" on the 1989 album
- the above text is contrary to what is said (without a reference) on the Suicidal Tendencies page:
The rumour that he was credited as Stymee on the album is false. Bass parts were recorded by the two guitarists of S.T. and Stymee meant "ST why me"
Pklala (talk) 23:16, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
"Acting"
[edit]There is zero evidence anywhere that the subject of this article is the same Robert Trujillo who appeared as a child actor in the period from 1978 - 1982. That section should be deleted entirely until reliable sources can be found. Can anyone find a single source aside from imdb? I've followed his career for 30 years and have never once heard him acknowledge he played those roles. SolarFlash (talk) 16:11, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- Agreed, there was not one source to support, it has been removed. - FlightTime (open channel) 16:22, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Native heritage
[edit]Is half of Robert Trujillo's family from the Taos (Pueblo) reservation? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 00:14, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
Flight time
[edit]What is your problem 47.36.29.245 (talk) 22:13, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- I don't have one, but you need to source your claim. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 22:22, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- Biography articles of living people
- C-Class Mexico articles
- Low-importance Mexico articles
- WikiProject Mexico articles
- C-Class biography articles
- C-Class biography (musicians) articles
- Unknown-importance biography (musicians) articles
- Musicians work group articles
- WikiProject Biography articles
- Start-Class articles with conflicting quality ratings
- Start-Class Heavy Metal articles
- WikiProject Metal articles