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Spic removed by Aztlán fanatic....User:Rockero

So what else do you do? Fly a Mexican flag while marching against the Americans, the Gringo? Got more hatred and propaganda to spew here? Spic is inherently related to the Bronze race concept, like no other. Just because you don't like the word, doesn't mean you can spin the Wikipedia and distort perceptions. This is not an activist website. Please take your crap elsewhere! Don't act like you do on the Left Coast and filibuster_(military) (See Reconquista (Mexico)) the Wikipedia. We have enough issues with Neo-Nazis; we don't need your race riots either. IP Address 04:31, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:Civility 8). I suppose the two are related, in that they are both ethnic or racial terms. One refers variably (according to the article) to Latin American, Italian, Puerto Ricans or any immigrant to the US, and the other refers variably (again, acording to the article) to Latin American mestizos, Andean Indians or Mexican Americans. Forgive me for removing your pertinent link, but it seemed to me that you had no other intention other than to add an offensive term to the page. When I went to your talkpage, it appeared that you had attempted to add the same link to other pages. I realize this isn't exactly assuming good faith, but I also let you know what I had done and asked you to defend the inclusion. I must admit that your argument, "Spic is inherently related to the Bronze race concept, like no other", is fairly convincing. As a result I will leave it in for the moment and ask other editors to express their opinions. Maybe we can get a straw poll going. Hoping for an amicable solution,--Rockero 07:03, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You should have WP:AGF in the first place...and Spic has NOTHING to do with Italy! Please review Ignoratio elenchi...BTW, it is plainly obvious that your profile page shows your biases. IP Address

Sources & Apparent Contradictions

Could anyone add a couple of references, please, and/or enlarge a little on the historic development of the term? Amado Nervo uses "la raza de bronze" to refer to native Mexicans (Juarez was a Zapotec after all), and so does Alcides Arguedas; in common Mexican usage "la raza de bronze" continues to refer to native Mexicans. I have not read Vasconcelos' "Raza Cosmica" nor am I familiar with the Chicano debate, but it seems to me that somewhere along the way the use of this term changed or was diversified, and I think this contradiction might at least be mentioned. Babelnetz (talk) 00:26, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]