Talk:Stomp box

Should this be merged with "Effects unit"?

Should this be merged with effects unit? I'm of two minds on this. Andrewa 00:46, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I think this should be left as is, to differentiate from rack-mounted effects units. Theanthrope 20:14, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)

What about effects pedal? That seems like a pretty similar topic, at least to the unitiated like myself.--Joel 18:17, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

There should be a merge. Effects unit is a more general term, but Effects pedal and Stomp box are the same. Friday 21:35, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Stomp boxes are sources of sound, like an instrument it is at the beginning of the signal chain. An Effects pedal accepts a source input like a Guitar, and modifies it in some way. ST (talk) 16:58, 30 March 2008 (UTC).

yes agree stompboxes are an instrument and create the source of the sound, and are therefore not an effects unit, nor and effects peddle.

Just now, my american friend was very surpriced, when he take a look at this site. We were discussing about electric guitar, so he took look here to know what is stompbox. Foe guitarists, just metal box with some effect is know as stompbox not this wooden one. Take a lok at google images and see, how many effects pedals is there (and how many percussion ones).I also checked guitar-amp companies such as Bos, Digitech etc. All of them talk about stompbox=guitar effect pedal ...

En.infernal 09:18, 28 August 2009 (CET)

The term "stomp box" has two different meaning. One is a foot-controlled effects processor, typically used with guitar. That's not what this article is about. It's about something different: a musical instrument. This article, about this foot-operated percussion instrument, is not relevent to the effects box article, except that it's appropriate in both articles to reference the other, as a different defenition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.68.134.1 (talk) 14:48, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Redundant at best

I'd like to know how Stomp box is not redundant with Trigger pad. As well, both presently show a small wooden device that is meant to be stepped on.

Anyone who has spent any time outside of US/UK pop music knows that feet have often been used as accompaniment. John Hartford would put a microphone down by the floor to amplify the sound of his dancing around as he played. Some musicians have used a kick drum; there's at least one 3 Mustaphas 3 track where someone is rhythmically kicking a bass-drum case (correcting: actually, it was an accordion case —WD), and others have used a box, whether wood or corrugated cardboard.

Significantly, the emphasis is on plug-in devices that are presently available for sometimes exorbitant prices, rather than something that can be had at little or no cost.

With that in mind, how is a "stomp box" significantly different from a small, limited purpose cajón? As THAT aricle already exists AND is more than an unsourced stub, maybe that is where this ought be appended.

For what it's worth, stomp box has been used for at least 45 years to mean ONLY a floor-based electronic effects pedal, specifically for guitar. That NEEDS to be discussed — nobody gets to simply walk up and claim a word as though it's a trademark, and Wikipedia certainly is NOT a tool for such purpose. Lacking a credible historical source, the usage as in this article does not have primacy and therefore no authority. At best, there MUST be some attempt made to demonstrate earlier uses of the term in the context claimed. Presently, Line 6 (company) sells the M9 and M13 Stompbox Modelers.

I suspect that one or more of the cited sellers launched this "article," and a few more joined in. That would make this a pool advertisement — a mob effort, but nevertheless advertising. Most are charging $100 to $250 for what often looks a lot like the $40 box from SX — not presented here, likely (my guess) because the seller didn't choose to abuse WP.

This is a very poor article. Because it has so many proponents, I am going to mark up its flaws for them to fix.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 14:01, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

I will be briefly running through the "Notable Users" list. If no mention is made in their article of using a device such as being promoted here, I will delete the claim as original research. Weeb Dingle (talk) 15:13, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Having pared back that list, I've left some that are dubious at best. For instance, I really doubt that John Lee Hooker ever used such a device, rather known for sometimes kicking a pallet. If he belongs here, then so does John Hartford, who never used such a device but brought along plywood squares AND put microphones at his feet. And about half that list retains names where no outside source is cited for verification; these I may later cut as well. Weeb Dingle (talk) 15:56, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Aside from my previous statements, I know little about the finer points of these devices, and so am inadequate to provide proper repairs, though I can easily identify specious logic. As user Lgnlint — apparently much more familiar than me with the topic — has seen fit to remove my "cluttering tags" without even pretending to be an editor by maybe fixing something, I will accept that as a go-ahead to remove unsubstantiated claims.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 16:43, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

@Weeb Dingle

according to the article cajón a cajón is without any electronics and hollow and much bigger than a stomp box; a stomp box is solid (not hollow, except for the one necessary hole for the connection) and is connected to and needs some electronics.

As for the pool advertisement (I'm not part of the music business in any way):

These stomp boxes seem to be a unique class of devices and as such deserve a separate article. Showing one (or two or three) image(s) for each manufacturer is not what I consider advertisement, as long as the information is true and substantial. Advertisement has its very typical phrasings and wordings.

Ping welcome, Steue (talk) 01:05, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

no credibility to claim about material

a simple percussion instrument consisting of a small wooden box… except, of course, for those made from milled aluminum… or stamped steel… or cast plastic… as shown in the Gallery section. I mean, criminies.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 15:05, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

prove it or lose it

I've tagged a bunch of names logged by fanboys in the usual Notable users list. Either the WP articles about them do not support the pants-wetting "he uses a stompbox!!" contention, or the source for that conjecture doesn't support the claim. Find better — quickly.

And anyone who simply removes these tags without fixing the problem should be aware that such action means I'll simply cut the name(s). Cool?
Weeb Dingle (talk) 16:59, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Example of shoddiness: turns out that Ash Grunwald, having in the past "used a million different stompbox, kick drum and trigger combos" more recently has converted to a Farmer FootDrum, as made clear in the offsite link offered to back the "stompbox!!" claim. FAIL.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 17:10, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

philosophical problem

This article begins by defining a stomp box as a small box that is tapped with the foot to make bass-drum sounds. The implication is that it's a simple mechanical device, but then this quickly morphs to include boxes with inbuilt microphones.

What then is to be done with electronic devices like the Roland SPD::ONE Kick? Is this a stompbox? If not, what is it?
Weeb Dingle (talk) 21:22, 1 December 2019 (UTC)