Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Megadeath

This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was keep in some form.

I count 1 "delete" vote, 6 "keep as redirect" to the band, 8 "keep as is" (one probable troll vote discounted) and 3 "keep as disambiguation page". The decision about what form to keep this article should now be moved to the article's Talk page.

I will, however, add my own vote. Reviewing the revised content, I consider this to still be a dictionary definition - that is, a discussion of the meaning, origins and usage of a word or phrase. If this is not substantially expanded in a reasonable period of time, it may be reappropriate to renominate the page for deletion after updating the transwiki to Wiktionary. Rossami (talk) 22:12, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Megadeath

The Megadeath page has been transwikied to Wiktionary. Should this remaining page be deleted? Ryan Prior 03:26, May 24, 2005 (UTC)

Once upon a time, it was a redirect to Megadeth, and so it shall be again. -- Cyrius|✎ 04:12, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Megadeath, or dab with links to Megadeath and Megadeath. Nateji77 07:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

~~sorry. to Megadeth and Megadeath. Nateji77 07:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)~~[reply]

change vote to Keep following changes. Nateji77 14:54, 31 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Megadeth. Geogre 11:05, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Megadeth and rock on! the wub (talk) 11:42, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - is an entirely different term to Megadeth. This is the word, as opposed to the band, and they have different spellings. Needs expansion though. Internodeuser 12:47, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as above. Martg76 13:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Comment was this term ever really used by the military? I never heard it until the band Megadeth came out. Can someone provide a reference? - Etacar11 16:38, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Redirect~~ as Cyrius. The band's article already mentions this (though it could be moved to an earlier part of the article if deemed significant enough). Etacar11 may have a point as well. -R. fiend 18:03, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Changing vote to keep now that it's been expanded beyond a dicdef. More expansion (if possible) would be good still. -R. fiend 00:55, 27 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
keep please it is interesting Yuckfoo 18:10, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
redirect again unless proof can be shown. --InShaneee 19:14, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Megadeth. --Carnildo 19:35, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Merge content with Cold war, keep as a disambiguation page (with a minimal expanation) between that and Megadeth. -- grm_wnr Esc 21:23, 24 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as is, or merge and redirect to any one of a number of articles on nuclear weapons. I am certain I recall it, because I thought "Oh, how unclever" when the band "Megadeth" came out. I also recall learning about and reviewing the fatality charts from the Cold War era in school. "Duck and Cover" era stuff. Here is a reference. More can be found by searching nuclear+weapon+megadeath. May also be used in relation to nuclear power disasters. Do NOT simply redirect to the hard metal band Megadeth. --Un focused 05:24, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Change vote to Keep as Disambig per Vashti, below. Un focused 04:09, 27 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Megadeth. Plausible misspellgni. R adiant _* 08:46, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
Regarding the term's prior use, it was quoted in Raymond Briggs's graphic novel When the Wind Blows, published in 1982. "It's called Megadeath, I think.... so many millions of people dead per bang. Any ketchup, dear?" According to the band's page, they were formed in 1983. So it seems like it was current before them. Oh yeah, ~~disambiguate~~ between nuclear weapons and Megadeth, since it's a dictdef. Vashti 08:51, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Changing vote to keep now that the page has been expanded. Could possibly use a pointer to the rock band at the top of the page, though. Vashti 07:31, 27 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm certain I heard it before 1982. I think it might have been in Dr. Strangelove or some similar work. JamesMLane 07:25, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Aye, I'm pretty sure I remember it from all the old CND material I sifted through in the early 90s/late 80s, but that's the only source I have to hand. Vashti 08:21, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Gen. Turgidson holds a binder titled "World Targets in Megadeaths" in front of him in the War Room in Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964). The word was coined by Herman Kahn in his 1961 book "On Thermonuclear War." which was a major influence on the film, as well as on the conduct of the Cold War. Megadeath should not merely redirect to the band. I believe it has importance not only as a definition, but also as a neologism characteristic of a particular time and way of thinking. I vote to keep (and expand) as a definition and disambiguation page. Dystopos 23:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I've made a start at expanding the article. More could still be done. Dystopos 23:36, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Disambiguate per Vashti Christopher Parham (talk) 04:38, 2005 May 26 (UTC)
KEEP encyclopedic content. Grue 12:14, 27 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep interesting, verifiable. Dan100 22:56, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

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