Talk:Bruiser Brody

Clarification

I'd like to clarify that, even thru a couple of his online biographies list San Juan as the place where he died, he really died in Caguas. I lived in Caguas when that happened. What happens is that, many times, when some big news ocurr in a city that is near a large city, they will credit the news as happening in the large city. For example, Ive read things that happened in Narita to be called as something that happened in Tokyo by the press instead. And that was also the case with Bruiser Brody. Although it appears oni two or three sites that he died in San Juan, he really died in Caguas, not far from my house actually.

AntonioMartin

Typo?=

I'm not sure, but judging by the context, I would think that there's a typo in the second sentence in the "Death" paragraph. It says several wrestlers 'contested' (doubted, denied) that Huertas had a knife, but I think it is supposed to say they 'contended' (affirmed, maintained) that. 62.158.122.102 19:53, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Name change

Should the article's name be changed to "Bruiser Brody"? RandySavageFTW (talk) 01:32, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was

 Done D.M.N. (talk) 13:25, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Move to "Bruiser Brody"? RandySavageFTW (talk) 15:54, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Support per WP:COMMONNAME. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 22:00, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Support, the only other name of note is Red River Jack and that was only during one angle--Apsouthern (talk) 10:50, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Support Darrenhusted (talk) 08:13, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Support per Skyes SAVIOR_SELF.777 07:49, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

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He wrestled under his real name too, Frank Goodish

http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=34917&p=1

From Jim Ross, "Too bad a few idiots who provide feedback on some wrestling websites simply don't get it. I mentioned that Mike Knox reminded me of a young, 1974 version of Bruiser Brody known then as Frank Goodish. I actually "knew" Frank and did not simply get to know the character by seeing his persona on old Japanese wrestling tapes. Knox is a smart guy, like Frank, has a big rangy frame, just as Frank did in the mid 70's, and pays attention, just as Goodish always did. Will Knox ever be as good as Bruiser Brody? We, as fans, can only hope so. So, no having a beard and being a large, Caucasian male isn't the only similarities I see between Mike Knox and Frank Goodish aka Bruiser Brody. And these little geeks call me a dumbass" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.47.241.20 (talk) 21:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

http://www.jrsbarbq.com/blog/jerry-ring-lawlerignorent-fan-feedbackknoxbrodyortonmale-fansswagger —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.47.241.20 (talk) 22:01, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Yet More on Neutrality

The article claims there was an "argument" or an "altercation" between Gonzalez and Goodish just before the stabbing, but I don't know of any evidence of this. As far as we know, there may have been an argument or there may have been a cold-blooded stabbing without a word. Stating there was an altercation without evidence could be considered a bias toward Gonzalez' claim of self-defence. Also, it's a little redundant to say the witnesses "didn't show up" if they're claiming they never received notice. It could be taken as an assumption they'd decided not to show up and that their claims should be treated as dubious. 82.13.122.55 (talk) 04:06, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Neutrality

The circumstances of his death are dealt with in a very tabloid way - remember that Gonzalez was acquitted of his murder, so describing his death as murder goes very much against WP:BLP, and material about his death needs to be rigorously sourced to reliable sources. Fences&Windows 15:19, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

RE: Neutrality

I respectfully disagree that this article deals with Brody's death in a biased fashion. Gonzalez was acquitted by reason of self defense. That does not change the fact that he did indeed murder Brody. It is a matter of simple terminology. Had the act been described as a homicide, than neutrality could be disputed. Calling it a murder simply enforces the fact that Gonzalez killed Brody, but could not be found guilty of homicide. Murder is a blanket term that describes any taking of a human life, which is exactly what occurred. Had Brody killed himself, it could be referred to as murder, and the term suicide would specify the type. The compelling fact remains that Brody was murdered, but no homicide occured. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Plowhand (talk • contribs) 03:18, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

I would say you have it exactly backwards. Murder as defined is very specific as to what it entails, "the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder), and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder)."

Whereas homicide isn't defined with such specificity. Another way of looking at it is the following, all murders are homicides but not all homicide's are murders. The Kevin (talk) 21:10, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

death section

There is a thread opened Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Bruiser_Brody at the BLPN in regards to some weakly cited controversial content in this section - I have trimmed it back to the simple details. Please do not replace it without discussion and support there, thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 11:19, 22 April 2011 (UTC)