Talk:Wireless Internet service provider

Are there any TV or radio stations with call letters WISP anywhere in the United States?? User 66.32.127.241

I realize this is an old question, but it appears so. I searched for "wisp radio" and found http://www.holyspiritradio.org/ , which is "WISP 1570 AM" --AshyRaccoon ^{Talk | Contribs} 06:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

clearing up the definition?

The way this article starts, it makes it sound like a WISP can include a plain old WiFi hotspot. But the remainder of the article describes WiMax providers. So which is it? Are WISPs technically only providers who make Internet access available to a large area via equipment that requires line of sight, etc?

Thanks.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rdeckard (talk • contribs)

It's complicated. Municipality owned or co-owned WiFi enterprises refer to themselves as WISPs, and their tech is discussed in the major WISP press. Furthermore, not all WISPs require line of sight/use WiMAX - Older protocols have existed since the turn of the century that could handle nearly ~1Mbps over 700mhz UHF and over 5 on the 2.5ghz MMDS spectrum. The more general nature of the current definition is a good thing. The article as a whole, however, requires considerable expansion to cover commercial WiFi mesh networks & cover historical systems in greater depth, ranging from 1-way Hybrid brand systems from the 1990s to pre-WiMax DOCSIS compliant systems. MrZaius^talk 02:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC) PS: We're dieing for lack of sources. Hopefully I'll get a chance to shore things up a bit, but a hand would be much appreciated.

Problems with WISP services

I'm removing this section as it cites no sources, is plain wrong in places and often illustrates problems users may have had. Any of the effects, properly referenced would be welcome if re-added. Nelson50^T 21:25, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

You were right to remove it - I wrote it when I was but a lowly newb, unfamiliar with WP:OR. That said, I'm curious as to what you thought was "plain wrong." All of the points did accurately reflect my experience and the consultant feedback I got when I was running the ISP side of a 2.5ghz & 900mhz WISP/cable provider in the states. Really asking, not trying to use my brief stint in the industry to assert that you're incorrect - I had no formal training in the RF side of things, so it would be nice to know which of the points was learned in error. MrZaius^talk 02:32, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment, and the courtesy in your question. The one I viewed as wrong was "Most technologies operating in the 2.4 GHz spectrum and higher required radio line-of-sight". Kosuch's reference below clarifies this with "There is the non-line-of-sight, WiFi sort of service, where a small antenna on your computer connects to the tower. In this mode, WiMAX uses a lower frequency range -- 2 GHz to 11 GHz (similar to WiFi)." Best regards Nelson50^T 19:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

We could discuss about this. His statement was true too, I did a quick search for refs but did not find anything suitable in English... I usually am tough on references elsewhere, but now I see how frustrating it can be if you cant ref a really good and most likely true statement... However, if this was the only point false to you, we can revert the other ones possibly.--Kozuch (talk) 20:05, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I too agree with most of your removed points. I re-included line of sight problems linked to a Wimax reference. It is a pitty to hide your experience, lets try to find references for your original statements!--Kozuch (talk) 02:45, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Integrate with Wireless local loop page?

This page seems to overlap with Wireless local loop (WLL), though I don't know enough about them to make the relationship clear. Are WISPs a subset of WLL providers? guanxi (talk) 19:48, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Title

Shouldn't the page title be all in capitals? Capitalising Wireless and Internet but not service provider makes especially little sense. Maikel (talk) 16:59, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Because Wikipedia creators are so much smarter than the publishers of dead tree encyclopedias, they've made up their own house style. Check out Wikipedia:LOWERCASE for the current rule, until someone changes it. --Wtshymanski (talk) 04:22, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Article needs restructuring to have sections per country

Article needs restructuring to have sections per country. A few countries are mentioned in the two starting sections, which really should be more focused on what a WISP is, not where you can find one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:B378:AC00:E0B1:9829:F58D:EDE9 (talk) 22:59, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

ISM Band

Early WIPS providers also used the ISM band. Companies operating in rural areas would put towers on mountain tops that eventually terminated in a city where it could link with wired infrastructure. That was back in the mid-1990's, before the FCC allocated the familiar 802.11 bands. Back then there were two equipment providers - Western Radio and BreezeCOM. 3Com, Intel, Linksys and friends had not (yet) entered 802.11 market.

I remember those days because I was part of a project that used BreezeCOM equipment to create a wireless network for part of a small city. In fact, a city councilman had to be "gifted" to get the permits approved for the wireless towers.

Jeffrey Walton (talk) 16:40, 19 October 2020 (UTC)