Talk:Ai

Moved from User_talk:docu

Is there a good reason why you (near enough) reverted my previous edit? I've consulted Wikipedia:Abbr, but the problem here is that some of the meanings are real abbreviations, whilst others are words in themselves. On the guidelines page, it recommends

If there is an article that is named that way (e.g. SI, Ur, pH), the page should be used for the article at one of these pages, rather than the page with the abbreviations.

In this case, I don't think that is appropriate, as none of the articles for where ai is a word are particularly prominent, and therefore a disambig page would be needed anyway. I think the original split is appropriate, but would like to hear your reasoning. If I don't get a response in a day or two I will revert it, and move this comment to it's discussion page. HappyDog 02:00, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Ai -- On your previous version, I'd add the Anguilla and the movie to the abbr. part as well. Personally, I prefer to alphabetize the remaining (the word) into the list rather than split it off, but your solution is quite straightforward as well. BTW If I knew where to add it, I'd move the Norse mythology to an article, it's somewhat lost on that page. -- User:Docu

OK - I've done as you suggested. I think there isn't an inherent problem in having them as one list, although the list heading would need altering so that it doesn't refer to them all as abbreviations. I think the split list is clearer though. I added the TLD, but it made no sense to say A.I. stands for A.I. so added it as a separate line at the bottom of the abbreviation section. HappyDog 02:58, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Removals and reasons

this does not include partial removals

• In Japan it is often used as a female given name, or as part of one.
  • this was removed as there is no specific article to link to; should be included in one of the Wiktionary entries; should also appear in given name list(s) ... I am not verifying or seeking out to add to either of these other places
• Ai, a chimpanzee who has participated in experiments in animal cognition at Kyoto University
  • again, no article target; if the chimpanzee were mentioned in the animal cognition, Kyoto University, or chimpanzee articles, I would have left this in, but there are no such mentions
• Love in Japanese and several Chinese dialects (including Mandarin)
  • this would be representation of a foreign word, which is handled through other means

Courtland 00:50, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

• the sense of "universal love" was added back with Love as the referenced article Courtland 03:01, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

game ai

My wording of Game AI is a little off, I'm going to bed, but hopefully you guys can fix it.

• Also, i think game_ai is a valid entry in here. I immediately think of it, instead of "real" ai. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steamrunner (talk • contribs)

Air ina Aminuxa43 (talk) 14:32, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Ai & AI disambiguation

This article is now many pages long, and lagging on supplying the 'quick and easy' navigation assistance set forth in WP:MOSDP. I think that Ai (disambiguation) and AI (disambiguation) should be separate. I have no position on whether Ai continue to be a disambiguation page versus an article. Thoughts? ENeville 20:50, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

One thought is that the dab page should be at AI, not Ai - almost every other 2LA dab page uses both capitals. Grutness...wha? 12:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

AI seems better than Ai - Even better to split them and let each refer to the other as EN suggested. - Rod57 (talk) 19:33, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

We Gotta Talk

IMO it would be a mistake to make substantive changes to the accompanying Dab without some brainstorming first. I'm about to start, in a separate edit w/in this section.
--Jerzy•t 17:03, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Split by Words from Abbreviations and Initialisms?

(I started this as "Split by Casing?", but realized my error as i wrote.)
_ _ I consider to be a failure the concept of lumping the words and abbreviations together on one page, and subdividing by subject. It does not serve users' needs.

_ _ There is a general guideline at MoSDab#Introductory line reading #:

_ _ This suggests, but need not imply, that

variations of capitalization or punctuation of the same alphanumerics should be covered on the same Dab page.

In any case, MoSDab#Break rules can apply here. And i expect most users to have a pretty good idea from the context, whether they are looking for a word/name or an abbreviation/initialism.
_ _ Thus my suggestion is two Dab pages:
Ai, covering everything written either Ai or ai:

AI, covering everything written otherwise, including AI, aI, and any punctuation that implies a non-word, plus any cases of Ai or ai that are not words:

BTW, i fully intend that the two pages overlap, even beyond "plus any cases of Ai or ai that are not words"; on the tip of my tongue is ".ai", which should be

1. explicitly in the "See also" section of Ai,
2. probably also in an entry

   ai, re-abbreviation of .ai

   on that page, and

3. at least once on AI.

--Jerzy•t 21:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Names of Persons

_ _ IMO, it is important to distinguish the uses of Dab pages in five situations of human names:

1. people whose names don't include separate and clearly assignable and recognizable given and sur-names (Hirihito, Saddam, Caesar)
2. people widely known, and usually referred to by surname alone (Shakespeare, Kant, Einstein, Hitler), in some cases to the extent that their given names are unknown to many who know their significance (Rimbaud, Goethe, Hegel, Tojo)
3. people widely known, and usually referred to by given name alone (Elvis, Oprah), in some cases to the extent that their given names (nicknames, or names by birth) are unknown to many who know their significance (Madonna, Pelé, Prince)
4. people distinguished within their respective fields to the extent that they are commonly referred to and recognizable, in the context of those respective fields, by a single given or sur-name.
5. notable people identifiable by a single name only when at least their given and sur-names have already been mentioned, throughout or recently, in the same work.

_ _ I think it is abundantly clear from MoSDab/Dab that Dabs must support cases 1-3.
_ _ IMO, it is desirable for Dabs to support case 4, not as part of the purpose of Dabs, but as a low-cost fringe benefit to users who prefer recognizing the given name within the Dab, over the effort of remembering, spelling, and/or typing the given name; IMO it must be done in a way that does not significantly impair cases 1-3.
_ _ There are editors who give significant effort to compiling lists of people (mostly notable ones) who share the same or related given names. IMO such lists are unencyclopedic (and harmful not just as clutter, but in encouraging other kinds of contributions motivated by forms of vanity, by catering to vanity of either of these two sorts:

There's an article on my [given] name!

Aha, my [whole] name is still camouflaged from deletion by all the other Algernon given names on the list!

But i have too little energy, and too little confidence in the feasibility of deleting those lists, to try to do much about them. I mention them here at all because of the many names beginning "Ai", which are mostly Japanese, and subject to the ambiguity of whether the first name mentioned is given or surname. I'd like to explore whether it suffices to move all the multi-word-name-of-person Ai entries into a (late!) section -- or better yet a page or two (one given names, one surnames) that can be linked (early, if any of them are surnames) from the Dab page.
--Jerzy•t 21:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Three-Way Breakdown of Existing Entries

See the next three sections for the source of these numbers.
(There is some intentional overlap between these counts)

1. 16 word entries
2. 39 human name entries
3. 48 abbr/init entries

IMO, these numbers support the utility i was anticipating for the division between words and abbreviations, and then separating common nouns and place names from human names.
--Jerzy•t 21:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Existing word entries

(These are non-proper nouns, and single word proper names )

==Geography==

1. Ai (Bible), a place mentioned in the Bible, likely identical to the archaeological site of Et-Tell
2. Ai, Ohio, a town in the U.S. state of Ohio
3. Ai River, a river in Taiwan

   ===Other non-fictional===

4. Ai (poet) (born 1947), American poet

   ===Mythical and fictional===

5. "Princess Ai", a character based on Courtney Love in the manga of the same name.
6. Ai, the female protagonist of the SNK Playmore fighting game Neo Geo Battle Coliseum
7. Ai, one of the main characters in the anime & eroge game Popotan

   ==Other==

8. Ai (bible)
9. Ai (animal), a three-toed sloth
10. Ai (chimpanzee), a female chimp famous for showing surprising numerical capability.
11. Ai (Beanie Baby), a Japan-exclusive Beanie Baby teddy bear produced by Ty, Inc.
12. Aoi Mac Ollamain (Ai), the Celtic god of poetry as an alternative first name and name abbreviation
13. Love (Ai) in the sense of "universal love" as developed by the Chinese philosopher Mozi
14. Ai (band), a female musical group.

    ==See also==

15. Ay, a pharaoh of ancient Egypt (which can also appear as Ai)
16. Ái, the husband of Edda and putative ancestor of the thralls or serfs in the Norse eddic poem Rígthula

Existing human name entries

===Chinese===

1. Ai Siqi, philosopher and author
2. Ai Qing, poet and political prisoner
3. Emperor Ai of Jin, a Jin Dynasty (265-420) emperor
4. Emperor Ai of Han (27 BC–1 BC)
5. Emperor Ai of Tang
6. King Ai of Zhou
7. Sima Ai, a Jin Dynasty (265-420) imperial prince
8. Xie Ai, general

   ===Japanese===

   Athletes

9. Ai Fukuhara, professional ping pong player
10. Ai Miyazato, golf pro
11. Ai Sugiyama, professional tennis player
12. Ai Shibata, professional swimmer

    Singers

13. AI (singer), (born 1981), hip hop singer
14. Ai Kago, (born 1988), pop singer
15. Ai Kawashima, pop singer and songwriter
16. Ai Otsuka, (born 1982), pop singer
17. Ai Takahashi, (born 1986), pop singer

    Voice actresses

18. Ai Bando, voice actress
19. Ai Nonaka, voice actress
20. Ai Orikasa, voice actress
21. Ai Maeda (seiyu), voice actress
22. Ai Shimizu, voice actress

    Other

23. Ai Iijima, media personality
24. Ai Kato, actress and model
25. Ai Maeda (actress), model and actress
26. Ai Morinaga, cartoonist
27. Ai Tominaga, model and actress
28. Ai Yazawa, cartoonist

    ===Mythical and fictional===

29. Ai Amano, the main character in the manga and anime series Video Girl Ai
30. Ai Haibara a.k.a. Shiho Miyano, a character in Case Closed (Detective Conan)
31. Ai Mori, a character in The Law of Ueki
32. Ai Tanabe, a character in Planetes
33. Ai Yazawa, a character in Battle Royale II: Requiem
34. Ai Toyon, the Yakut god of light, usually depicted as an eagle perched atop the "world tree".
35. Aikanaka, a character in Hawaiian myth
36. "Princess Ai", a character based on Courtney Love in the manga of the same name.

    ===Other non-fictional===

37. Merneferre Ai, an Ancient Egyptian ruler of the thirteenth dynasty of Egypt.
38. Everett Ai, world-renowned surgeon
39. Alcuin AI (pronounced A.I.), British born artist and musician working with Artificial Intelligence.

Existing abbr/init entries

==Technology==

1. Artificial intelligence, intelligence exhibited by any manufactured system, likely the most common usage
2. Adobe Illustrator .ai (file format), as the file extension for the native file format and abbreviation of this application
3. Analog input, i.e. of a Programmable Logic Controller
4. Game artificial intelligence, the artificial intelligence that drives NPCs in video games

   ==Television, film, and music==

   does not include companies or organizations

5. A.i., the Los Angeles-based rock band
6. Artificial Intelligence: A.I., science fiction film directed by Steven Spielberg
7. American Idol (AI), the American television series
8. American Inventor (AI), a reality television series searching for America's best inventor.
9. Australian Idol (AI), the Australian television series
10. Asian Idol (AI)
11. Artificial Intelligence (series) (AI), a musical album series by Warp Records

    ==Medicine==

12. Accommodative insufficiency (AI), an inability to focus on an object.
13. Aortic insufficiency (AI), a symptom of a heart disorder
14. Aromatase inhibitor (AI), one of a class of drugs used to treat cancer, in particular breast cancer
15. Artificial insemination (AI), the insertion of male sperm into the female reproductive tract using artificial means other than sexual intercourse
16. Amelogenesis imperfecta (AI), a genetic disorder affecting tooth development
17. Articulation index (AI), a method of measuring hearing loss
18. Avian influenza (AI), a class of bird viruses

    ==People==

19. Allen Iverson, NBA Basketball Player for the Denver Nuggets
20. Andrés Iniesta, football player for FC Barcelona
21. Andre Iguodala, NBA Basketball Player for the Philadelphia 76ers

    ===Other non-fictional===

22. Allen Iverson (born 1975) American NBA basketball player for the Denver Nuggets.
23. Andre Iguodala, American NBA basketball player for the Philadelphia 76ers
24. Alcuin AI (pronounced A.I.), British born artist and musician working with Artificial Intelligence.

    ==Geography==

25. Anguilla (AI), as the ISO 2-letter country code
26. Appenzell Innerrhoden (AI), a Swiss canton

    ==Organisations==

27. Air India (AI) (IATA airline designator)
28. The American Interest (AI), a quarterly publication on international affairs
29. Amnesty International (AI), an international non-governmental human rights organization
30. The Art Institutes (AI), a system of educational institutions
31. Artificial Intelligence (comedy troupe), creators of Tony 'n' Tina's Wedding

    ===Chinese===

32. Andrew Ip, No-Y Empire's Emperor

    ==Other==

33. Air interdiction (AI), a military capability
34. Annals of Inisfallen (AI), a chronicle of the medieval history of Ireland
35. American Idiot (album) (AI), 2004 album by the band Green Day
36. Alexis I. duPont High School, referred to as AI
37. Associate Instructor, usually referred to as AI, used by some universities instead of Teaching assistant
38. Appreciation Index (or AI) is a score which is used by broadcasters as an indicator of the public's approval for a particular television programme or service in the United Kingdom.
39. Arcade Infinity, a video game arcade in Rowland Hills, California.
40. Architect's Instruction (AI), equivalent to a Clarification, an official document that seeks to correct a potentially misunderstood aspect of a set of Construction Documents
41. American Iron (AI), automotive road racing class of the National Auto Sport Association (NASA).
42. Airy function, Ai(x)
43. Army Instructor, the subordinate instructor(s) in US Army ROTC
44. Avian Influenza (AI)
45. Action item, an item discussed in a meeting that requires further action or work
46. Appreciative Inquiry (AI), an organizational development process developed by David Cooperrider
47. Ai (education), answer indicator.

    ==See also==

48. .ai (the ccTLD for Anguilla).

Reply

From a usability point of view, I'd prefer grouping by categories. Most of the time you're looking something up you have a general idea of what you're looking for (is it a person? a technology? etc.) so breaking it down per category or kind would facility fastest lookup, I think. Shinobu (talk) 11:54, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Ai is Japanese given name

Ai (あい、アイ、愛、藍、亜衣) is Japanese given name(219.160.56.135 (talk) 08:44, 10 July 2008 (UTC)).

Move?

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No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:55, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Ai → AI (disambiguation) —

• Upper case as the majority of entries in the page are abbreviations Twilightchill t 12:21, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment a large portion of the page is not. 65.95.14.96 (talk) 12:56, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
    • I agree. I am not sure this qualifies as an "uncontroversial" move. ~Amatulić (talk) 20:38, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:DABNAME ("A word is preferred to an abbreviation"). Quite a few of the entries are words, people, or places called "Ai". In addition, AI (disambiguation) looks a lot like Al (disambiguation) in many fonts. — AjaxSmack 18:46, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

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Rather than move to AI; given the size, wouldn't it be better to separate Ai (disambiguation) from AI (disambiguation) ? - Rod57 (talk) 19:37, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

To the Guardians of Wikipedia (whoever they may be)

Okay, I get it: Some high school in Delaware, Alexis I. duPont High School (whose initials should be AID anyway, it seems to me) – that qualifies as being listed in 'Ai (disambiguation)'; but the Appraisal Institute (to which I belong), the leading American organization in the field of real estate appraisal – which shows on their website that they have copyrighted "AI" (see http://www.appraisalinstitute.org/ ) – they do not. The second time I added the organization, I pointed that out; and someone still took them out of the list. What is the deal anyway? It is bad enough that I have to fight for 'notability' on albums and rock bands and artists that I have written entire articles on; but now, we have to keep the disambiguation lists short? When I first started writing in Wikipedia, it was a lot of fun; and I really felt like I was contributing. I am no big deal, but I am closing in on 3,000 edits and have written over 100 original articles. Now almost every time I put something in, somebody reverts it immediately – and just to rub it in, I get a message saying that this has happened. If you people are trying to run me off, it is working. Shocking Blue (talk) 17:49, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Can you add that information from the website to the article Appraisal Institute? -- JHunterJ (talk) 18:10, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Resolved at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation#To the Guardians of Wikipedia (whoever they may be). PrimeHunter (talk) 18:47, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

   Said resolution is recorded at a section on an archive. Perhaps it's not worth noting every instance of cluelessness in a talk complaint, but I'm noting one of the non-reasons for the resolution of this complaint: SB cites the copyright on the Web page, as if it could conceivably bear on the question. No one can copyright "AI", and all SB should have inferred from the page is that copyright was claimed on the literary work that the page embodies, and therefore various extensive quotes from the page might (or not) infringe on rights of the org'n. Many individuals or orgs may have registered trademarks or service marks, of the form "AI", which grant each of them with a theoretically exclusive right to use the name, for promotional purposes, when it refers to something in the respective category of product or service that their TM states their mark applies to. (My WAG is BTW that the presumption that the range covered doesn't overlap the range of an earlier mark with the same text is weak at best, and that all the copyright office does is either to document your request, or search superficially, so that you have to sue the infringer to enforce your TM/SM. So holding, or claiming, a mark is not very relevant to any desire to have us acknowledge it.)
   Having said that much, the criterion for having an entry on a particular Dab page is not whether an entity has some (exclusive or non-exclusive) legal right to the term, but whether the term is likely to be used by some of those seeking info, on a topic that has been written about, and is sufficiently notable to have survived deletion. Presumably that is what is reflected by whatever resolution was reached or is currently in effect.
--Jerzy•t 05:04, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 29 October 2023

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:29, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

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Ai → Ai (disambiguation) – In 2008, this page had the disambiguation name removed from the title due to WP:MDP. Given the rise of artificial intelligence, the reason no longer applies to the title and should be redirected to that article. 1989 (talk) 16:28, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

• Leaning oppose: Artificial intelligence is identified as the primary topic for "AI", but this is "Ai" with a lowercase 'i'. What leads you to believe there's a primary topic for "Ai"? This is not the conventional capitalization of the abbreviation for Artificial intelligence. The article about Artificial intelligence doesn't even mention "Ai" (as far as I notice). "Ai" can refer to many subjects – e.g., a given name, a surname, the name of several towns, the name of several rivers, a species of sloth, a top-level domain on the Internet, the suffix for Adobe Illustrator files, etc. Wikipedia article titles also cannot distinguish between "Ai" and "ai". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:25, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

  @BarrelProof: While you may have a point about the many subjects, per Rreagan007, "ai" should be a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT for artificial intelligence because the term "AI" is not always capitalized. When someone searches for it, they might not think to have the wording capitalized in order to find it. Also, when you see this page, the first thing you see is the artificial intelligence article link but is named AI. 1989 (talk) 22:54, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:SMALLDETAILS; a lowercase "i" does not primarily refer to Artificial intelligence or anything else. Steel1943 (talk) 19:05, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
• Move to AI (disambiguation), as the current Ai disambiguation page contains both capitalized and uncapitalized entries. "Ai" should redirect to Artificial intelligence per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT, as someone typing in "ai" into the search bar is very likely to be looking for the Artificial intelligence article. Rreagan007 (talk) 21:05, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

  As 'Ai' is a word or name, WP:DABNAME indicates A word is preferred to an abbreviation, for example Arm (disambiguation) over ARM which suggests 'Ai' is preferred over 'AI'. older ≠ wiser 02:35, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:SMALLDETAILS. InfiniteNexus (talk) 03:10, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose per all above. Disambiguation is needed for the non-acronym. Dicklyon (talk) 21:28, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose WP:SMALLDETAILS "ai" and "Ai" and "AI" are different terms -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 21:54, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose Per WP:SMALLDETAILS combined with the fact that people may be legitimately searching for the name "Ai". ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:08, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
• Move The page serves to disambiguate different forms/combinations of A and I in that order: AI is artificial intelligence, intellectual ability in machines and robots. Ai, AI or A.I. may also refer to ... It is also the target for AI (disambiguation) used as a hat note from the Artificial intelligence article. Artificial intelligence is fairly clearly the primary target for AI, however capitalised (including stops or spaces). By default, the disambiguation page is also the target for ai. WP:DABNAME states: The title of a disambiguation page is the ambiguous term itself, provided there is no primary topic for that term. If there is a primary topic, then the tag "(disambiguation)" is added ... WP:SMALLDETAILS is a shortcut to Wikipedia:Article titles#When a spelling variant indicates a distinct topic. Ai is inherently not a distinct topic. Consequently, on considering the applicable guidance it is appropriate to add the disambiguation tag as proposed. I can also see a case exists for targeting the various permutations of ai (in that order) to the Artificial intelligence article; though that is a separate question, I see it is already raised above. Cinderella157 (talk) 02:22, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

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