User:BD2412/Archive 039

Archives By topic (prior to June 1, 2009): Articles-1st/Deletion-1st-2d/Law-1st-2d-3d-4th-5th Misc.-1st-2d-3d-4th/RfA-1st-2d-3d-4th/Tools-1st-2nd-3rd/Vandalism Dated (beginning June 1, 2009): 001-002-003-004-005-006-007-008-009-010-011-012-013-014-015 016-017-018-019-020-021-022-023-024-025-026-027-028-029-030 031-032-033-034-035-036-037-038-039-040-041-042-043-044-045 046-047-048-049-050-051-052-053-054-055-056-057-058-059 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Landship Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Landship may have a consensus, if you wish to close it out. Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 16:16, 3 January 2020 (UTC)  Done Cheers! BD2412 T 17:05, 3 January 2020 (UTC) Deletion review for Maito Santos User:Miraclepine has asked for a deletion review of Maito Santos. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —Cryptic 10:23, 6 January 2020 (UTC) And XNXX, on Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2020 January 8. —Cryptic 09:41, 9 January 2020 (UTC) AFD review You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2020 in archosaur paleontology as Keep borderline WP:SNOW. I believe that the arguments advanced and the closing decision were flawed in their logic and in the application of WP policies and guidelines. Is there a formal process when decisions on AfDs can be re-examined by uninvolved participants to determine the correctness, or otherwise of the decision? Any help you can offer would be appreciated. Regards  Velella  Velella Talk   00:44, 10 January 2020 (UTC) My understanding is the discussions closed as keep are discussed at Wikipedia:Deletion review just like those closed as delete. Cheers! BD2412 T 00:46, 10 January 2020 (UTC) Thanks for that. I was just in the process of striking out my request having read the previous discussion but your quick response caused an edit conflict. The review of deletion process asks that I inform you, as the closing admin, of my decision to submit the AfD for review. Please take this thread as that notification, the formal link will come later. It may take me a few days to marshal the arguments before making the submission. I am several thousand miles from home and working on unfamiliar hardware and I realise that my arguments need to be policy based, succinct and logical and these requirements take some careful research. Regards  Velella  Velella Talk   01:15, 10 January 2020 (UTC) I am overcoming the flu, and have no great capacity to participate in such a discussion now anyway. Thanks. BD2412 T 01:46, 10 January 2020 (UTC) Adrian G. Duplantier Hey, I don't know if you have a way of looking into this or not, but I noticed an article for a district judge has been deleted for copyright issues, Adrian G. Duplantier. I don't know who the original editor/creator was but I was thinking about re-creating it, but didn't want to run into the same copyright issues, whatever those were. Any thoughts? Snickers2686 (talk) 01:59, 10 January 2020 (UTC) Unsurprisingly, the original creator was User:Billy Hathorn. I have restored the article with only non-copyvio material. BD2412 T 02:20, 10 January 2020 (UTC) "Draft:Mental health of Donald Trump" listed at Redirects for discussion An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Draft:Mental health of Donald Trump. Since you had some involvement with the Draft:Mental health of Donald Trump redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Hog Farm (talk) 01:36, 13 January 2020 (UTC) Replied there, thanks. BD2412 T 02:55, 13 January 2020 (UTC) Thanks, but I could use your help again Thanks for your edit here.[1] Since "child sex abuser" is a formal term used by governments on both sides of the Atlantic[2][3][4] and "convicted p..." is an utterly flawed tabloid phrase that sees multiple Wikipedia articles falsely report how innumerable people were jailed for having a psychiatric disorder, perhaps you would consider undoing the edits of User:Deacon Vorbis, who is now reverting all the corrections I've made over the last hour or so. Other users have explicitly supported my corrections.[5][6] Thanks. 151.229.26.18 (talk) 04:12, 19 January 2020 (UTC) That seems like an issue to address through a community process. BD2412 T 04:14, 19 January 2020 (UTC) Transwiki Thanks for closing and moving Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Latin names of islands. There was also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of English exonyms for Italian toponyms and a couple other AFD that would have the same result if it's appropriate for all of these place translation pages to be on Wiktionary. I had just prodded List of English exonyms for Arabic-speaking places before I noticed the transwiki, though List of French exonyms for Italian toponyms and others have been tagged with Template:Copy to Wiktionary. However, it appears per Category:Copy to Wiktionary that this automatic process has ceased. What would be the appropriate process to have this carried out for these pages? wikt:Help:Transwiki is dead so I can't quite tell how to import (if I can). Thanks! Reywas92Talk 02:07, 26 January 2020 (UTC) I can do these. Cheers! BD2412 T 02:27, 26 January 2020 (UTC) Thanks – there's actually quite a few of these at Category:Lists of exonyms. Reywas92Talk 09:07, 26 January 2020 (UTC) Sounds like fun. BD2412 T 15:33, 26 January 2020 (UTC) WP:MFD Closed discussion for User:Krzyzowiec/Userboxes/ThirdPositionist @BD2412: In the collapsed box on the main WP:MFD page, at the very bottom of the screen, the collapsed box is titled Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Canada despite it being for the above userbox MfD, and I can't figure out where the page is that is referencing that collapsed box to fix it. It should be a link the MfD, not Portal:Canada. Any idea? Cheers, --Doug Mehus T·C 03:18, 26 January 2020 (UTC) I did that once before. It should be fixed now. BD2412 T 03:19, 26 January 2020 (UTC) BD2412, Thank you, yep, all good. No worries. Doug Mehus T·C 03:23, 26 January 2020 (UTC) note re portals thanks for your comments on portals. it looks like for some reason, some of these old issues are re-appearing for no apparent reason. I appreciate your positive statements in support of applying some logic in favor of strengthening portals as a group. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 06:27, 30 January 2020 (UTC) Thanks. We'll get there. We're on the right track. BD2412 T 11:40, 30 January 2020 (UTC) Whimbrel disambiguation You have correctly disambiguated Whimbrel in the western hemisphere bird lists. However, you also changed the specific epithet. Because the cited authorities for those lists' taxonomies (mostly American Ornithological Society, some Clements) have not split the species, the specific epithet should have been kept as phaeopus. Please restore. Craigthebirder (talk) 22:00, 1 February 2020 (UTC) I don't see how that can possibly be right. I'll change them back, but it seems damned odd. BD2412 T 02:04, 2 February 2020 (UTC) Thank you. The several taxonomic authorities operate on different schedules and to a degree different philosophies. AOS is pretty conservative; they don't spit as much as Gill and Donsker (IOC). The AOS North American committee announces changes in July or early August and the South American one on an irregular basis. Clements is less conservative, but still not as split-happy as IOC; they also do an annual announcement, usually in July. Craigthebirder (talk) 12:26, 2 February 2020 (UTC) Your submission at Articles for creation: United States v. Sisson has been accepted United States v. Sisson, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as Stub-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. I accepted this as a stub, although it really needs expansion, both in terms of the rather complex situation in the case, the historical relevance , and whether further cases have referred to it. DGG ( talk ) 09:14, 4 February 2020 (UTC) @DGG:, I did not submit this, and would not have considered it ready for submission. BD2412 T 11:40, 4 February 2020 (UTC) The alternative would have been deletion as a G13, which I prevented. Even as is, it passes the criterion, which is that it would not be deleted at afd. I do not think we have ever deleted a modern US Supreme Court case. DGG ( talk ) 17:29, 4 February 2020 (UTC) There is a middle ground of making an edit to the draft to extend it for another six months, but this isn't terrible. BD2412 T 00:49, 5 February 2020 (UTC) Note re workspace talk page I appreciate all your help at the page User talk:Scottywong/Portal guideline workspace. I think that at this point, the last section "one closing thought," is simply detracting from the general readability of the page, since it is simply a discussion of my own recent edits, which have been reverted, as you know. So therefore, may I please suggest that we create an "archive" page for that page, and then move that section into there? I think that doing so would be appreciated by all the editors there. I would suggest to leave that section there for one day, a brief time period, just to allow greater transparency and to let others see it, if they wish, and then move it to an archive. I don't think it is helpful to the general readability of the page; I fully admit my own role in initiating that section, but at this point we can safely retire it. I have already added this suggestion, in that sub-section. I hope that's okay? Please feel free to let me know your preference. I do appreciate your helpful feedback; your constructive criticisms are something I will note. Please ping me when you reply. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 15:11, 5 February 2020 (UTC) I have no problem with that. Cheers! BD2412 T 16:07, 5 February 2020 (UTC) that's terrific. thanks for your reply. Cheers!! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:20, 5 February 2020 (UTC) Now an editor there has left a personal comment there at the bottom of the talk page. It is their right to do so, but I'd prefer that it wasn't there. the answer to improper editing practices, is not further improper editing. is this supposed to open a new sub-topic? I had archived that section, precisely to allow discussion there to return to the page's core topics. it is preferable if we get back to the actual topics of that page. I am just letting you know. I am here if you need me, but otherwise, i will simply let the world to keep rolling along. I appreciate your help. thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:32, 5 February 2020 (UTC) ok, I have condensed a past comment of mine there by a large amount, in order to meet them halfway, and avoid any possible pitfalls of one editor, even myself, appearing to add too much a specific discussion thread there. I appreciate your help, guidance, and input. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 16:46, 5 February 2020 (UTC) just letting you know, I plan to step back from editing that page for some period of time, in order to watch the discussion as we receive input and insights from other editors, and hopefully get some cross-section of views of those who have been participating there. I'm assuming the discussion there will resume its focus on the core topics of that page. I really appreciate all your help there. it is good to have your input. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) Proposed deletion of Raymond Plouhar The article Raymond Plouhar has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern: Fails WP:BLP1E. Everyone dies....that certainly doesn't contribute to his notability. Being in the Marines is not notable. The ONLY thing about this guy is his appearance in the movie. While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons. You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page. Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. John from Idegon (talk) 19:34, 5 February 2020 (UTC) @John from Idegon: I have changed this to a merge proposal, as the subject is sufficiently noteworthy to merit some mention in Fahrenheit 9/11. BD2412 T 23:39, 5 February 2020 (UTC) Thanks for the ping. I came within an nth of just boldly redirecting. And I'd certainly not object to you doing it yourself. John from Idegon (talk) 23:59, 5 February 2020 (UTC) I would prefer that the information, or at least a summary of it, actually be merged. There are aspects that are directly relevant to the film. BD2412 T 00:57, 6 February 2020 (UTC) @John from Idegon: I have now merged this content to Fahrenheit 9/11 controversies#Raymond Plouhar. Cheers! BD2412 T 20:06, 13 March 2020 (UTC) Note re your user page Hey, I just took a look at your user page. wow! thanks so much for posting the informative links to let us know about your long-standing efforts here. I'm still reading through the data that you provided. but thanks so much for your efforts. I am starting with list of most active wikipedians, and then exploring other items after that. thanks for all the info. cheers!! --Sm8900 (talk) 22:22, 5 February 2020 (UTC) Nice of you to say, thanks. BD2412 T 23:52, 5 February 2020 (UTC) no problem!!--Sm8900 (talk) 01:57, 6 February 2020 (UTC) Note re article Hi. I need your help over at User_talk:Scottywong/Portal_guideline_workspace. if you see the last comment by SmokeyJoe there, they seem to keep bringing up my name there. I would like any discussion that refers to me personally to come to some conclusion, so that we can move on, and resume discussing the core topics at that page. it seems like anything that I do there to try to resume or return things to normal only gives them another reason to bring up my user name again. so I don't wish to comment there just to keep renewing this topic. Just to clarify, I am not comfortable with any further discussion that mentions me by name. I'm not objecting to it as a general rule; rather I am simply saying I would like to see the discussions there simply move on and get back to the core topics. Any comment that I make there to bring this topic to a close would apparently have the opposite effect. You, on the other hand, are highly credible and have lots of substance and expertise as an editor. So I'd like to ask that you please simply do whatever you wish there to bring this topic to a close. by the way, please note, I am not asking for any rebuttal for any of the comments there. I am simply asking for this topic to ccome to a close, so that we can simply move on. any personal comments there are something that I am not comfortable with at this point. I'm perfectly willing to engage and reply constructively to any inquiry or any coomment that anyone wishes to make. I simply feel that in regards to this specific topic, we can simply conclude it and move on. So if you could please make whatever brief comment you might wish to simply get the discussion there back on the core topics, I would greatly appreciate it. please note, you are welcome to ask me for any actions, approach, comment, or any other steps that you might wish me because you feel it is proper for me to do so. I am totally open to any such input. I am not trying to request any particular outcome there; I am simply asking for this subject to be closed, so that we can move on. can you please assist? I would greatly appreciate it. again let me know any actions steps or comments that you need from me. thanks!!! --Sm8900 (talk) 01:57, 6 February 2020 (UTC) If you intend to withdraw from further activity on that page, I would suggest that you succinctly let that be known, and that will likely be the end of the conversation. BD2412 T 02:04, 6 February 2020 (UTC) thanks for your reply!!! well, I can't say that there; because if I do say that, then if I make even a minor comment later, that will only raise a whole other issue. I am indeed planning to step back from editing that page for a while, but I wasn't planning to just stop commenting, or to never comment there ever again. by the way I was planning to simply reply there simply by saying "point taken. good point." I don't mind saying whatever would be constructive. my only concern was that if every reply of mine simply raises up issues again, or stirs things up no matter how low-key then I might wish to request your input. however, I'm fine if you simply want to watch the discussion there, and see what happens. I will trust your ability and experience to take the right action, based on whatever will be most positive and beneficial for the discussions as a whole. I appreciate your reply. thanks.--Sm8900 (talk) 02:16, 6 February 2020 (UTC) You seem to be an industrious editor. I'm sure that with some reflection, you will figure out how extricate yourself from the situation appropriately. BD2412 T 02:25, 6 February 2020 (UTC) true enough. well, that sounds fine. no problem, will get this resolved. it's good to be able to be in touch periodically. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 04:24, 6 February 2020 (UTC) question re talk page item Hi. someone reverted my edit on a 'talk page.' are they allowed to do that? my comment was totally innocuous, as far as I can tell. if there's something that was wrong with my comment, then I am totally open to your feedback. could you please let me know? the change was at this diff: link to diff. I appreciate any input. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 04:02, 9 February 2020 (UTC) Their next edit was a self-revert, indicating that they reverted you by accident. BD2412 T 04:05, 9 February 2020 (UTC) oh ok. lol I guess I missed that. sorry to have bothered you!! I'm very grateful though for how approachable you have been with ordinary inquiries and requests for assistance. I look forward to discussions with you about some other stuff that I have been considering. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 04:11, 9 February 2020 (UTC) It's all good. BD2412 T 04:32, 9 February 2020 (UTC) Idea for new community workspace Hi. I would like to create some kind of collaborative workspace where coordinators or members of various WikiProjects would gather and provide updates and information on what is going on at each wikiproject, i.e. regarding their latest efforts, projects, and where interested editors can get involved. You are one of the most active editor/admins here, so I wanted to get your brief input on whether you'd be interested in helping me to make this happen. I see a few possible options for making this happen, so I would like to get your input and feedback on this. which of the options below would you prefer? also, please reply to the brief questions below. Would you be interested in an idea of this nature? If so, which option below seems most feasible to you? Create a new page/talk page at the existing WikiProject Council, where members of various WikiProject can gather to offer updates, information and ideas on the latest efforts at each of their own WikiProject, such as Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Town Hall. Create an entirely new WikiProject with an inclusive name such as Wikipedia:WIkiProject Town Hall, Wikipedia:WikiProject Bulletin Board, Wikipedia:WikiProject Water Cooler Create a new collaborative page or forum, but not as a new WIkiProject, i.e. with some name like Wikipedia:Town Hall or Wikipedia:Water Cooler Create a new sub-page in my own userspace, such as User:Sm8900/Town Hall Create a subpage at an umbrella-type WikiProject that already covers a broad topical area, such as Wikipedia:WikiProject History/Town Hall Please feel free to let me know what you think of this idea, and please let me know your preference, regarding the options above. if you do not see any need for this idea, that is totally fine. However, I think that the majority of editors lack awareness of where the truly active editing is taking place and at which WikiProjects, and I would like to do whatever I can to help make people more aware of where the activity is, what they can do to help, and also which areas of Wikipedia offer ideas and efforts that might help them in their own editing activities. Please feel free to let me know. --Sm8900 (talk) 05:07, 9 February 2020 (UTC) I feel that the existing collaborative workspaces are sufficient. It would be better to put this energy into revitalizing existing WikiProjects. BD2412 T 05:13, 9 February 2020 (UTC) ok. which existing collaborative workspaces are you referring to? I am open to all opinions on this. however, I am simply just want to clarify, as I'm not sure if we have an existing workspace where coordinators of the most active WIkiProjects provide current updates on a regular periodic basis. could you please let me know which places you mean? I do highly appreciate your willingness to help and to reply. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 06:09, 9 February 2020 (UTC) hi! by the way, we are discussing this now as a proposal, at the following location. your input would be welcome there. thanks. link: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Idea_for_new_community_workspace. --Sm8900 (talk) 22:32, 9 February 2020 (UTC) By existing workspaces, I mean the various subpages of Wikipedia:Village pump. I tend to prefer improvements to the implementation of existing spaces over the creation of new ones, which can briefly be attractive as a shiny bauble, but then are just as quickly forgotten. BD2412 T 22:40, 9 February 2020 (UTC) Sorshe Ilish Hello, I saw you edited Sorshe Ilish, this jingoistic editor for Bangladesh again changed the place of origin to Bangladesh, instead of Bengal. This was even stated by User:Huon here in talk. It is clearly a Bengali dish, however, this user Za-ari-masen on multiple article is changing Bengali dishes to Bangladeshi dishes. Others are Chomchom, Bakarkhani, as well as articles such as Kazi Nazrul Islam and Gauḍa (city), which are not justified. These reversals are just Bangladeshi jingoism. All these are shares by both Bangladesh and India. As noted on the talk page, but the user Za-ari-masen comes back and changes it. (2600:1001:B003:5C82:61D3:209D:CA6E:5364 (talk) 06:14, 9 February 2020 (UTC)) I only fixed disambiguation links on the page. I have no knowledge of the area, and am unable to address it further. BD2412 T 12:42, 9 February 2020 (UTC) just saw your note Hi. I just saw your note re the drafts left by our fellow editor, colleague, and valued and cherished creative contributor to Wikipedia, user:Brianboulton. I admire your effort to put some value on the works of this individual who left such a rich legacy. I would like you to please look at my contribs to his user space, and let me know if you are okay with my edits. I have created a page User:Brianboulton/drafts to list these drafts. then I would like to rename each numbered sandbox, using the title at the top of each one, and make them a subpage of the drafts page. there will be a list there, that anyone can easily read. would you like to go there, and take a look at what I set up? I really appreciate your heartfelt efforts on this, on behalf of a cherished member of our community, who clearly had genuine erudition and intellectual creativity. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 02:52, 10 February 2020 (UTC) At this point I am going to ask that you cease leaving messages on my talk page—at least for a few days—as I am finding your communications to be excessive to the point of being uncomfortable, and a bit stalkerish. BD2412 T 04:30, 10 February 2020 (UTC) no problem, will do so, and will respect your wishes to the fullest extent. I apologize if I over-stepped. no problem, will tone it down as you request, for a reasonable period of time. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 15:01, 10 February 2020 (UTC) Mohamed Hassan Could you tag Mohamed Hassan as {{R from ambiguous term}}, please? You were the protecting admin. Narky Blert (talk) 14:47, 11 February 2020 (UTC)  Done. Cheers! BD2412 T 00:55, 12 February 2020 (UTC) Deceased Wikipedians Hi there. I saw this page today and wondered about adding someone to it. User:CCShade passed away several years ago now. He only had a few hundred edits, but I guess that is a lot more than many people ever get? He was mostly here to work on the very same D&D monster articles that have inspired a lot of ire of late. I wrote this about him after he died, and after talking to his wife: [7] The links to his online obits don't appear to work anymore, but I found new links: [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] I'm not sure how I would go about adding something for him, or if I even should, but I kind of want to. Any suggestions? BOZ (talk) 03:30, 12 February 2020 (UTC) I would assume that any confirmed deceased Wikipedian should be documented, although I have never been on the documenting end of the process. BD2412 T 03:32, 12 February 2020 (UTC) Oh, OK, thanks. I will give it some thought on how to proceed. :) BOZ (talk) 03:36, 12 February 2020 (UTC) @BOZ: A stalker writes: see Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians for guidance. Narky Blert (talk) 12:39, 12 February 2020 (UTC) Discussion at User talk:Dekimasu#corona thingy  You are invited to join the discussion at User talk:Dekimasu#corona thingy. —usernamekiran (talk) 13:23, 12 February 2020 (UTC) New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020 Hello BD2412, Source Guide Discussion The first NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success. Redirects New to NPP? Looking to try something a little different? Consider patrolling some redirects. Redirects are relatively easy to review, can be found easily through the New Pages Feed. You can find more information about how to patrol redirects at WP:RPATROL. Discussions and Resources There is an ongoing discussion around changing notifications for new editors who attempt to write articles. A recent discussion of whether Michelin starred restraunts are notable was archived without closure. A resource page with links pertinent for reviewers was created this month. A proposal to increase the scope of G5 was withdrawn. Refresher Geographic regions, areas and places generally do not need general notability guideline type sourcing. When evaluating whether an article meets this notability guideline please also consider whether it might actually be a form of WP:SPAM for a development project (e.g. PR for a large luxury residential development) and not actually covered by the guideline. Six Month Queue Data: Today – 7095 Low – 4991 High – 7095 To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here 16:08, 13 February 2020 (UTC) "Draft:Dick (slang)" listed at Redirects for discussion An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Draft:Dick (slang). Since you had some involvement with the Draft:Dick (slang) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Hog Farm (talk) 20:34, 13 February 2020 (UTC) This appears to be resolved. Thanks. BD2412 T 02:10, 14 February 2020 (UTC) Nomination for deletion of Template:RfA-nom Template:RfA-nom has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Interstellarity (talk) 14:09, 14 February 2020 (UTC) I have replied there, thanks. BD2412 T 20:30, 14 February 2020 (UTC) Revival request of K. Surendran (politician) Dear,User:BD2412 I think there is an AFD war going on Wikipedia. K Surendran has been aapointed as the state president of Bharatiya Janata Party Here here This AFD discussion has been formed due to A political rivalry of a Some team.There is many significant coverage in independent reliable sources, which prove the notability of.K. Surendran (politician) ,it is clear.But now the page has been wrongly deleted with no way to tell what exactly was deleted. We humbly request you, Please revive this deleted Page or can u move it to a draft space..?? Thanks-- Padavalam Kuttan Pilla  Talk  13:02, 15 February 2020 (UTC) Irrespective of the reason for the formation of the AfD discussion, the article was deleted pursuant to a consensus of trusted and experienced editors. I have refunded the article to Draft:K. Surendran (politician), and I have move-protected the page, so that administrative review will be required to restore it to mainspace. You may work on the article in draft space and submit it to mainspace when the deficiencies identified in the deletion discussion have been resolved. BD2412 T 14:13, 15 February 2020 (UTC) Thanks @BD2412:, Can you refund the talk page as well? It may have nothing on it but I tend to think a article page and it talk page /subpages are conected and should stay together when possible through thick and thin. -- Padavalam Kuttan Pilla  Talk  14:56, 15 February 2020 (UTC) Sure. BD2412 T 17:26, 15 February 2020 (UTC) Requested Moves Hi sir. Do you mind helping me with this? I've not done this before and this is a rather large discussion over quite a few pages. Thank you for your time. Benkenobi18 (talk) 04:41, 16 February 2020 (UTC) Have I filed this correctly? Thank you. I added the contested template. Benkenobi18 (talk) 04:52, 16 February 2020 (UTC) I have fixed it, cheers! BD2412 T 05:03, 16 February 2020 (UTC) Move Request of Draft:K. Surendran (politician) Hi @BD2412:,Greetings.... Unfortunately, the day of he became as the state president (15-02-2020) his page was deleted through the AFD.It was an interesting ☺☺ These are some of the most important news article in last few days,that followed easily prove his notability.You can check the news and date to make it sure my arguments. E-paper from janmabhumi daily newspaper Ndtv (national media) The Hindu (National newspaper) timesofindia/indiatimes.(National newspaper) National news mathrubhumi news Manorama news keralakaumudidaily newspaper deshabhimani daily newspaper deccanherald These reliable sources are solved specific concerns of editors who supported deletion discussion. Therefore, I request you to Please move this Draft:K. Surendran (politician) article to the main space Thanks-- Padavalam Kuttan Pilla  Talk  08:32, 17 February 2020 (UTC) Padavalamkuttanpilla, I am sure neither BD2412 or any of the AfD participants were aware of the about to happen future incident, So it is wrong to claim some link. That said even if this news had come before the AfD closure, I dont think it would have made any difference to the decision at AfD. The state presidents of the party are not inherently notable. However if the subject wins a state of national election then he passes WP:NPOL and can get his wiki page. I see that you are working to improve the draft. You may continue your efforts but when you are done, please discuss this again with the AfD participants before deciding to move the page back to mainspace. regards DBigXrayᗙ 11:17, 17 February 2020 (UTC) Hey DBigXray, He was appointed as the same day when afd closed.When I came to edit the article, I saw it had been deleted a few hours ago So I couldn't pointout these sources there.I believe that a well experienced editor like you will review these reliable sources with neutrality.Thanks-- Padavalam Kuttan Pilla  Talk  12:05, 17 February 2020 (UTC) Padavalamkuttanpilla, I have reviewed all these sources with neutrality. They are all about his appointment to a non notable post. had he been appointed as the national president of BJP, then he might have merited an article. state presidents of a party do not get this benefit. I am moving this to the draft talk page for the benefit of the page reviewers. Please continue there. DBigXrayᗙ 12:11, 17 February 2020 (UTC) Moved to Draft talk:K. Surendran (politician) § Move Request of Draft:K. Surendran (politician) dab edit You did some cleanup here, but missed the ending period :) But shouldn't this statement just be removed as unsourced? There is an objection on the talkpage about the claim that it is Arabic also. MB 04:15, 18 February 2020 (UTC) I have a script that fixes missing spaces after commas (or extraneous spaces before commas). I generally don't look at anything else on the page except the specific issue being fixed. Sometimes I catch something like that, but the entire point of the script is to fix large numbers of punctuation spacing errors quickly. BD2412 T 04:18, 18 February 2020 (UTC) Senator O'Neil I created Lottie Holman O'Neill, so I was notified when you created Senator O'Neil. How did you track down all the names? Did you look through lists of senators from each state, or do a "~" search? Just curious. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:56, 19 February 2020 (UTC) I used AWB to make a master list of all people in categories for federal and state senators in the U.S., and then Microsoft Excel to sort out those with duplicate last names. BD2412 T 13:59, 19 February 2020 (UTC) Happy First Edit Day! Happy First Edit Day, BD2412, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Bobherry Talk Edits 00:53, 20 February 2020 (UTC) Congrats on 15 years!!! 15 year society should come calling soon!!! Bobherry Talk Edits 00:59, 20 February 2020 (UTC) Heeey, pizza! BD2412 T 01:02, 20 February 2020 (UTC) A barnstar for you! The Real Life Barnstar You have been on Wikipedia for 1/3 of your entire life! I was only a few years old when you joined! I am sure I am speaking for everyone when I say, Thank you! Bobherry Talk Edits 01:01, 20 February 2020 (UTC) I actually have one of those from Wikimania. I can't remember which one. BD2412 T 01:03, 20 February 2020 (UTC) Happy First Edit Day! Thanks! Fifteen years a Wikipedian. Plus, I just passed the 1,500,000 edit threshold this month. BD2412 T 02:17, 21 February 2020 (UTC) Thanks Thanks for inviting me to the discussion, I do appreciate it, but right now it seems there is far more closed-mindedness than open-mindedness in my favorite topic area, and I have of late come to realize that I am a bit of a wiki-dinosaur whose time has passed. Not that this has changed my outlook in terms of what the encyclopedia should be able to keep, but I doubt that I can add much of anything substantive to a discussion like that, as a result. I appreciate you trying, all the same, and if there is anything I can do to help in your efforts I would like to help. BOZ (talk) 04:18, 24 February 2020 (UTC) We all do what we can, my friend. BD2412 T 04:54, 24 February 2020 (UTC) Speedy deletion for unused redirect Love, Victor to make room for Love, Victor (TV series) Hey BD2412, The Disney+ Love, Simon tv series has been renamed to "Love, Victor" and since that's taken by a redirect, I've moved it to Love, Victor (TV series). However, upon looking at WhatLinksHere, it looks like "Love, Victor" has never been used as a link for Victor Love. So, it's basically an unused redirect. I'm worried it's going to cause a lot of confusion because someone has already linked to it today accidentally while trying to link to the TV show. Since you created the redirect, I wanted to check with you first if you oppose requesting for a speedy deletion so that we can move the TV series there (without the need for disambiguation). Or even better, if you're ok with the replacement and since you're an admin... would you please proceed with the speedy deletion and move Love, Victor (TV series) -> Love, Victor. Thanks. — Starforce13 23:57, 24 February 2020 (UTC) Done, cheers! BD2412 T 02:02, 25 February 2020 (UTC) Thank you!!!— Starforce13 02:13, 25 February 2020 (UTC) mistake Hi. I think you made a mistake in Consciousness (Graham S. Hill book). The author is Christopher S. Hill. Ali Pirhayati (talk) 19:17, 1 March 2020 (UTC) I see. I was going by the proposal made at the end of the discussion now at Talk:Consciousness (Hill book). BD2412 T 19:20, 1 March 2020 (UTC) Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors! please help translate this message into your local language via meta The 2019 Cure Award In 2019 you were one of the top ~300 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a thematic organization whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs. Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 18:35, 5 March 2020 (UTC) Many thanks, I'll wear the badge with honor. BD2412 T 19:12, 6 March 2020 (UTC) "Orc (Dungeons & Dragons)" listed at Redirects for discussion An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Orc (Dungeons & Dragons). Since you had some involvement with the Orc (Dungeons & Dragons) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 18:34, 6 March 2020 (UTC) I have replied there, thanks. BD2412 T 19:12, 6 March 2020 (UTC) Strauder v. West Virginia I have added a lot of detail to this page over the past year. Would you give it a look and point out any ways you might see to improve it further? Thanks. -- Foofighter20x (talk) 16:22, 7 March 2020 (UTC) Excellent, I will look at it this evening. BD2412 T 16:37, 7 March 2020 (UTC) Arbitration case opened You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Jytdog. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Jytdog/Evidence. Please add your evidence by March 23, 2020, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Jytdog/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. All content, links, and diffs from the original ARC and the latest ARC are being read into the evidence for this case. The secondary mailing list is in use for this case: arbcom-en-b@wikimedia.org For the Arbitration Committee, CThomas3 (talk) 05:49, 9 March 2020 (UTC) Your draft article, Draft:Sour Grapes Hello, BD2412. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Sour Grapes". In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code. If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it. Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:59, 9 March 2020 (UTC) Your draft article, Draft:Sentencing reform Hello, BD2412. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Sentencing reform". In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it. Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 18:31, 10 March 2020 (UTC) AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Davalenco - You made the right call. I was approached by someone at contract hiring website who wanted to pay me money to vote Keep in this debate. The Keeps are suspect there and everywhere. -- GreenC 13:04, 11 March 2020 (UTC) Thanks for the vote of confidence. BD2412 T 01:53, 15 March 2020 (UTC) Request Hi BD2412, Now This Draft:K. Surendran (politician) was expanded to meet all Wikipedia criteria..!! I Request you to move this article to main space by reviewing all sources.This article deserves a main space.This WP:AFD was formed due to a clearly political rivalry.Thanks-- Padavalam Kuttan Pilla  Talk  15:21, 11 March 2020 (UTC) As previously noted, this will be contingent on the opinion of editors who supported deletion of the article in the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/K. Surendran (politician) (2nd nomination). Even if one of those editors is no longer here, User:Johnpacklambert, User:GPL93, and User:Bearian are still available to comment. BD2412 T 17:24, 11 March 2020 (UTC) I support my previous deletion vote. Also it should be noted that DBigXray was not "expelled" or even faced any disciplinary action from Wikipedia , but chose retire due online harassment. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:30, 11 March 2020 (UTC) Hi,This article has over fifty sources,There are over 100 sources outside of it and This is a magazine that came out about him in this week.I still don't understand. on what grounds argue that he fails to WP:GNG..?? Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage WP:NPOL.are you saying that this criterion does not apply to him...? WP:POLOUTCOMES that this does not apply to him. Or is it WP: IDONTLIKE..?? I request youBD2412 take a neutral decision on this case Thanks-- Padavalam Kuttan Pilla  Talk  19:06, 11 March 2020 (UTC) My role in this process is no make a neutral decision determining the consensus of the community, which does not appear to have shifted at this time. BD2412 T 19:11, 11 March 2020 (UTC) I have no COI nor any horse in this race. I do not favor the re-creation on main space at this time, per WP:TOOSOON. Bearian (talk) 00:09, 12 March 2020 (UTC) I don't know that every person has different criteria.Nothing happens here except my time is waste so I don't want to stay here anymore.Thank you all-- Padavalam Kuttan Pilla  Talk  07:06, 12 March 2020 (UTC) Now at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2020 March 13. —Cryptic 12:12, 13 March 2020 (UTC) 2020 Washington Democratic primary Recently you made an edit updating the voting count numbers, thanks for that! However you wrote "as of March 11, 10:00pm PDT" which is almost 3 hours from now (in the future). What is the time supposed to be? I don't know the correct time otherwise I'd fix it myself. -kotra (talk) 02:34, 12 March 2020 (UTC) Sorry, it was 10:00 PM EST. I guess that's 7:00 PM PST. BD2412 T 03:00, 12 March 2020 (UTC) Ah, easy mistake to make. Thanks! -kotra (talk) 03:15, 12 March 2020 (UTC) A barnstar for you! The Original Barnstar Thanks for improving Wikipedia. People like you should often proceed towards making a society where education comes at no cost. Hope you continue your work with ease. Yash 06:49, 14 March 2020 (UTC) Thanks! This actually served as a good reminder of something at the right moment. Cheers! BD2412 T 15:12, 14 March 2020 (UTC) Talk:Every Which Way but Loose/temp Thanks for closing the RM, but looks like you accidentally left Talk:Every Which Way but Loose/temp behind. Not a big deal, just letting you know. Station1 (talk) 05:20, 19 March 2020 (UTC)  Done, thanks! BD2412 T 12:51, 19 March 2020 (UTC) Regarding AfD Hi BD2412, I have proposed this article for deletion, but there is no response from Wikipedian's can you please go through it once, Thanks. - MRRaja001 (talk) 11:15, 21 March 2020 (UTC) The discussion appears to be proceeding normally. Cheers! BD2412 T 14:06, 21 March 2020 (UTC)